"The Church pulpit has become a political voice, and this defeat of Prop 8 is just the first of many to follow.
This group should consider a more wide reaching agenda. If Churches are able to have a tax exempt status then they should stay out of politics. If they choose to preach to their congregations about Prop 8, fund the fight against Prop 8 with Church donations, it is time they paid their taxes, for they have become a political machine. From Mormons, Catholics, Evangelicals, this will not quit until this critical area is adressed."

"The Church pulpit has become a political voice, and this defeat of Prop 8 is just the first of many to follow.
This group should consider a more wide reaching agenda. If Churches are able to have a tax exempt status then they should stay out of politics. If they choose to preach to their congregations about Prop 8, fund the fight against Prop 8 with Church donations, it is time they paid their taxes, for they have become a political machine. From Mormons, Catholics, Evangelicals, this will not quit until this critical area is adressed."

"The 13 colonies cam here for religious freedom. Not for freedom without religion. Most communities were established with their specific religion. Yes, the constitution was designed to not include God, but that was in a mindset that most people would still uphold some sort of religion in their own way with a focus on God as it was in those days. Not to do away with God completely. The founding fathers used the Bible to help frame the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

"Whereas the Bible, the Word of God, has made a unique contribution in shaping the United States as a distinctive and blessed nation and people;

Whereas deeply held religious convictions springing from the Holy Scriptures led to the early settlement of our Nation;

Whereas Biblical teachings inspired concepts of civil government that are contained in our Declaration of Independence and the constitution of the United States;
Whereas many of our great national leaders -- among them Presidents Washington, Jackson, Lincoln and Wilson -- paid tribute to the surpassing influence of the Bible in our country's development, as the words of President Jackson that the Bible is 'the rock on which our Republic rests'..." Public Law 97-280, passed on Oct. 4, 1982

"The Bible and its teachings helped form the basis for the Founding Fathers' abiding belief in the inalienable rights of the individual, rights which they found implicit in the Bible's teachings of the inherent worth and dignity of each individual. This same sense of man patterned the convictions of those who framed the English system of law inherited by our own Nation, as well as the ideals set forth in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution." Ronald Reagan"

"Really, Reagan in the same boat as Bush. Wow, that is a bold but stupid in my opinion that is, comment. Majority of people consider him the best President in the last 20 or 30 years.

Anyway, it was definitely a different world then. Slavery, it was a horrible thing do not get me wrong. But they were sold to them, not much differently than a car is sold. The Africans that owned them in Africa, sold them, the biggest and strongest to be slaves.

Their refusal of one religion was so that it did not impose on another religion. But religion and God was more important then than it is today I believe. The understanding of it has grown. We are not smarter than they were then, our intelligence is collective, we learn from what they did not know. Or so we should."

"Is that all you got?

Aids is a horrible thing, but it does not get spread easily. And I'm not about to be baited into a Aids and homosexuality discussion over a political thread.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2D6103FF932A25754C0A966958260&sec=&spon="

"Unfortunately you are right. But, the people who did inhabit the 13 colonies were religious, I wonder if someone actually worshiping Satan ever crossed their mind.

So, what was Reagan supposed to do to single handed stop HIV from spreading to 69.9 million people? I am a big fan of Queen, but I'd never blame his death on Ronald Reagan. "