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usa2bxl
Anyone who's gay already married outside the USA?
Nov 15 2008, 8:14 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 15 2008, 8:14 PM EST
Hey-- are any of you out there married or engaged in countries where gay marriage already is protected and recognized by the law? As far as I know this includes Canada, the Netherlands, and Belgium, and I think Spain.

I was thinking you could help tell your stories, what marriage means to you, why you love your partner and family, etc. It'd be great to post these stories online as encouragement to Americans back home to never give up for what's right. Could we make an international site for these things? Videos, writings, and stuff.
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leathergoose
leathergoose
1. RE: Anyone who's gay already married outside the USA?
Nov 16 2008, 8:52 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 16 2008, 8:52 AM EST
Yes, we do have gay marriage in Spain--thank God. For the stories you want I suggest you contact cogam.es or www.colegaweb.org --some of our associations. I think as long as this campaign is English-only a lot of people are missing it, including lots of Latino gays in both Florida and California. It could prove a good idea to engage some Spanish translators. I live in Switzerland, but if there is some distance work that I can contribute I would be glad to do so. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
bgwmeh
bgwmeh
2. RE: Anyone who's gay already married outside the USA?
Nov 16 2008, 9:20 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 16 2008, 9:20 AM EST
Me and my wife met in 1994, and started dating in 1996. We were too young and lacking of money to live together. We both come from an inmigrant working class background. During the 60s' economic bonanza both our families settled down, purchased a home and got some savings. But we, as siblings of the 80s' crisis and the very homophobic post-dictatorship times, have had harder times to find our place in the world.

My wife has been there through everything life has brought to me. She has been my shoulder to cry while enduring hard times at school, through my father's death, my mother's cancer and death, through clinical depression, company crackdown and job loss. And believe me, her life hasn't been any easier than mine.

We married in September 2006, as a celebration of our 10th anniversary. We've been about to split up maybe 30 times, but we haven't spent a single day apart from each other, not even one. We've worked really hard for love to prevail, and hope to keep trying with same courage untill the end of our lifes. This is what family means to me.

We live in my parents' apartment, in the building where I was born. All the neighbours know me since I was a baby. My sister, the other greatest support I've had in life, lives on the same floor. We haven't experimented any negative reaction from anyone; I think that everyone still sees me as the same nice girl... Anyway, in my city streets are quite safe for 2 women or 2 men to walk hand in hand. People look at you, but they tend not to mess arround...

The last 20 years have been crucial in the development of gay people's rights here. This is true mainly in big cities and not in the country. When 1,5 million people march for equality in a country of 39 million inhabitants, the government can't ignore it. This is why I believe in the GLBT movement making broad coalitions with other progressive social movements.
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usa2bxl
3. RE: Anyone who's gay already married outside the USA?
Nov 16 2008, 4:06 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 16 2008, 4:06 PM EST
"Yes, we do have gay marriage in Spain--thank God. For the stories you want I suggest you contact cogam.es or www.colegaweb.org --some of our associations. I think as long as this campaign is English-only a lot of people are missing it, including lots of Latino gays in both Florida and California. It could prove a good idea to engage some Spanish translators. I live in Switzerland, but if there is some distance work that I can contribute I would be glad to do so."
Awesome, thanks. I'm working on a website now where we can compile some good stories, and I'll see if I can find people in Belgium who are willing to help.
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mcdevittpugh
4. RE: Anyone who's gay already married outside the USA?
Jan 4 2009, 2:57 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 4 2009, 2:57 PM EST
US citizens who can't bring their same-sex foreign partner into the USA are able to marry in countries like Belgium, the Netherlands, Spain, Canada and South Africa, or become civil partners in places like the UK (with all the same rights of marriage, including partner immigration). A lot of countries see the good sense of keeping their talented gay citizens at home instead of sending them into exile and losing all that education paid for by taxpayers.
There are plenty of people willing to share their stories of love, and the impact of being a second class citizen in your own country.
See http://www.loveexiles.org, the Love Exiles Foundation for contact details for our community.

With love,
Martha McDevitt-Pugh
Founder and Chair
Love Exiles Foundation
Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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