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R.J.Bloodworth |
Less Focus on Marriage, More Focus on all Issues
Jan 15 2009, 8:58 AM EST
I live in Florida, which means not only can I marry the person I love, but I also can be fired from a job simply for being gay. The majority of the surrounding states are the same way (alabama, georgia, mississippi, tennessee, etc.) I want to be able to marry just as much as anyone else, but we have to focus on all things that make us unequal. I propose a rally that will focus on gaining support for an LGBT inclusive job protection law. Federal or state level, I don't care, but this is an issue we must tackle.
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MarriageEqualityUSaz |
1. RE: Less Focus on Marriage, More Focus on all Issues
Jan 15 2009, 10:50 PM EST
All events should focus on Full Equal Rights, but the fight we are in is for Marriage. We did not pick that, our opponents did. They want to start big, with denying us 1138 rights all at one time. We need to answer the fight they are bringing to us. If we can convince someone that we deserve the right to marry, and all of the rights that conveys, I can not imagine that person would be in favor of workplace or housing discrimination. Maybe on the way to convincing them we should have marriage rights they will first be convinced that we should have the individual rights, which still serves the overall goal. We must ask for all rights or we will be forced to settle for some rights.
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MarcusMaichle |
2. RE: Less Focus on Marriage, More Focus on all Issues
Jan 16 2009, 11:27 AM EST
Personally, I don't know what specific area of focus is most important to me right now. I'm passionate about equality, whether it be marriage or employment. And, I think that a rally for one will benefit the other. Any rally is going to increase visibility. Any ally we make, or any politician we pressure will have to consider both. My advice, participate in the efforts that you are passionate about. If ENDA is more important to you, then focus your efforts there. I think that there a sign for employment equality at a gay marriage rally would be welcome. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
Judegeekgirl |
3. RE: Less Focus on Marriage, More Focus on all Issues
Jan 22 2009, 8:18 PM EST
I'm with RJ. If you don't have a job, that's pretty darn serious, especially in this economy. I think the fight is for the whole enchilada. I also have a concern about hate crimes (can't get married if someone kills you), and teenagers. Can't grow up to be happily married if someone bullies you or rejects you to the point of suicide. Can't get an education if your parents kick you out or you runaway and live on the streets.
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brennainmiami |
4. RE: Less Focus on Marriage, More Focus on all Issues
Jan 26 2009, 10:53 AM EST
I absolutely agree with this idea; we've been trying to frame what we stand for down here as "against homophobia" rather than "for marriage"; because the people waging the anti-marriage campaigns are interested in so much more than preventing us from getting married; and because many queer people aren't interested in rallying around the concept of marriage (including, to a certain extent, me!). The "for equality" slogan is great, but I think people hear that as code for marriage, and it also makes it seem as though we are only interested in changing laws--and while i think that's crucial, and a tangible goal, i also think that this has to be about attitudes as much as laws.
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Casey773 |
5. RE: Less Focus on Marriage, More Focus on all Issues
Jan 26 2009, 12:41 PM EST
MarriageEqualityUSaz, you turn on a bright light bulb. Our opponents chose marriage as the issue. I agree that employment protections are very important but if we let merriage fall to the side, then TRUST ME, our opponents are not. Further, their next angle is adoption bans. After that, I'm sure employment protections are on their list. We have to fight them head on in the marriage front because if they win there, adoption is next. Look at Arkansas.
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bbrooker |
6. RE: Less Focus on Marriage, More Focus on all Issues
Feb 26 2009, 6:28 AM EST
This is where the momentum is right now! I say push marriage equality until it becomes reality. They other issues are in the forefront as well, but we need to keep the ball rolling on marriage!
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damian922006 |
7. RE: Less Focus on Marriage, More Focus on all Issues
Feb 26 2009, 6:37 AM EST
"This is where the momentum is right now! I say push marriage equality until it becomes reality. They other issues are in the forefront as well, but we need to keep the ball rolling on marriage!"well as i do agree with most all of the views i must say this one sticks out to me the most because this person want to push one right till it is ours. but if i may remind most of you this is not a "fight" that will be won over night this is going to take years.so in saying that i implore you to think are you in it for the long run or short term? i must agree we need to press all rights for us glbt`s not just one. Do you find this valuable? |
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bbrooker |
8. RE: Less Focus on Marriage, More Focus on all Issues
Feb 26 2009, 10:04 AM EST
Didn't say it would happen over night...my God, look how long it has taken just to get to this point! With Prop 8 in the lime light, we need to use this momentum to stay in the lime light. We need to work on all of "our" issues, my concentration is marriage equality. That does not mean I do not support and do what I can for the other injustices to our community. I work for ALL of our issues/rights...not just one. Was this thread not about marriage!!!???
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Goombah |
9. RE: Less Focus on Marriage, More Focus on all Issues
Feb 26 2009, 1:27 PM EST
I don’t think we can afford to ease up or allow ANY discrimination when it concerns equal rights. To be totally honest the marriage issue was not really a priority of ours until someone took away my right to choose My partner and I have been together many years and when the opportunity came for us to marry we did NOT ( part of it had to do with my 60’s anti-establishment attitude ) But that didn’t mean NOT supporting my brothers and sisters that wanted that right. I do agree there are other important issues besides marriage but as one poster pointed out we didn’t start this fight and to ignore it would be a disaster. I say we put all the cards on the table and stand up for equal rights NO exemptions. Hopefully by the time my partner and I do decide to become part of the mainstream we will have all options available to us just like heterosexual couples. Do you find this valuable? |
